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Bro. Peter Dimond

As many people know, there’s been quite a bit of discussion recently about whether Muslims and Christians worship the same God and the teaching of Vatican II in this regard. 

We recently posted a video that quoted St. Vincent Ferrer and a medieval catechism, which both set forth the true Catholic position, namely, that Muslims do not worship the one true God but a false God.  There are many other quotes and points that, God willing, we intend to share on this topic.  However, this video will focus on the teaching of Pope Pius II.  It will present an extremely important passage that has not yet been covered by anyone in this regard.  This papal teaching should end the debate in favor of the traditional Catholic position and against the false teaching of the Vatican II Sect, the end-times Counter Church.  In their delusion, defenders of the Vatican II Sect have made many bold and ridiculous claims on this topic.  They’ve promoted many false arguments and fallen into blasphemies. 

Michael Lofton, Do the Popes Say the God of the Quran Is Satan? | The Shocking Truth, June 25, 2025: “By the way, notice what he [John Paul II] is saying.  He’s not just saying that the God of the Koran is the God of Christianity.  He’s also saying the God of Jews is the God of Christianity… Muslims and Christians worship the same God… But we’re also seeing [Vatican II] popes say that the God of the Koran is the God of Christianity and the God of the Bible.”

Keep in mind that Vatican II’s teaching on Islam has at least two major problems and areas in which it directly contradicts the teaching of the Catholic Church and the popes.  First, Vatican II esteems all the Muslims and the religion of Islam itself. 

Vatican II, Nostra Aetate #3: “The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.  They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God.  Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet.  They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion.  In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead.  Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.”

Vatican II, Lumen Gentium #16: “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.”

That is preposterous and indefensible blasphemy, because the Catholic Church has officially taught that Islam is a diabolical and abominable sect.  See the teaching of Pope Eugene IV and Pope Callixtus III, whom we quoted many years ago. 

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Basel, Session 19, Sept. 7, 1434: “Moreover, we trust that with God’s help another benefit will accrue to the Christian commonwealth; because from this union, once it is established, there is hope that very many from the abominable sect of Mahomet will be converted to the Catholic faith.”[1] 

Pope Callixtus III, Solemn Vow, 1455: “I vow to… exalt the true Faith, and to extirpate the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet [Islam] in the East.”[2]

The Catholic Church does not look upon a diabolical sect that leads people to damnation with esteem.  In fact, the Vatican II antipopes (such as Antipope Benedict XVI) understood Vatican II’s teaching on Islam precisely to mean that Vatican II esteems the religion of Islam itself. 

Benedict XVI, General Audience, Aug. 24, 2005: “This year is also the 40th anniversary of the conciliar Declaration Nostra Aetate, which has ushered in a new season of dialogue and spiritual solidarity between Jews and Christians, as well as esteem for the other great religious traditions.  Islam occupies a special place among them.  Its followers worship the same God and willingly refer to the Patriarch Abraham.”[3]

Benedict XVI, Address, Dec. 22, 2006: “My visit to Turkey afforded me the opportunity to show also publicly my respect for the Islamic Religion, a respect, moreover, which the Second Vatican Council (declaration Nostra Aetate #3) pointed out to us as an attitude that is only right.”[4]

We documented this many years ago.  That fact by itself refutes Vatican II and proves our position.  It’s the problem with Vatican II’s false teaching on Islam that we’ve exposed most over the years.  However, there’s another major problem and it has been the subject of much discussion recently.  It is the focus of this new series of videos.  That is Vatican II’s teaching that Muslims worship the one true God together with Catholics (the God who has spoken to humanity) and thus that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.  That is also false and contrary to Catholic teaching.  Yet, supporters of Vatican II are boldly defending this blasphemous position and making utterly false claims such as that Catholic authorities have always held it.

Joe Heschmeyer, Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?, April 29, 2025: “So the idea that Muslims and Christians worship separate gods, or worse that Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship separate gods, is a pretty modern error – one that seems to have had its origin in some form of Protestantism.”

Timothy Gordon, Does Islam Worship The One True God?, July 6, 2025: “… the Church has always taught they [i.e. Muslims] believe in the one true God…”

Trent Horn, Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God? (My Take), July 3, 2025: “The Church has always recognized that Muslims and Jews aren’t like other non-Christians, because they do worship the One God.”

We debunked their false claims about the historical witness with our video on St. Vincent Ferrer and the medieval catechism, but there is so much more.  Let’s now look at the teaching of Pope Pius II.  On Oct. 13, 1458, Pope Pius II published a bull called Vocavit Nos Pius.  The purpose of this bull was to rally European leaders for a crusade against Muslims and to convene the Congress of Mantua.  Pope Pius II lamented the alarming advances that Islamic forces had made, and how they had taken over so many formerly Christian areas and churches.  In that context, he states this (and here’s the Latin text).

Pope Pius II, Vocavit Nos Pius, Oct. 13, 1458:

Ecclesiae pulcherrimae, quae invocabant Dominum nostrum Iesum Christum, illique psalmos dies noctesque decantabant, nunc horridum atque abominandum Mahomet nomen implorant, et, relicto veri Dei cultu, nefandis {92} imbutae sacris obscoenis serviunt cerimoniis.

“The most beautiful churches, which were invoking Our Lord Jesus Christ and singing psalms day and night to him, now call upon the horrid and abominable name of Mahomet; and abandoning the worship of the true God and imbued with unspeakable rites, observe obscene ceremonies.”[5]

Wow, there you have it.  This is a papal bull addressed to all Christians who will read his document.  Pope Pius II teaches that when the Christian churches were converted into places of Islamic worship, the worship of the true God was abandoned.  Let me repeat that: the worship of the true God was abandoned.  That means that Muslims do not worship the true God, but a false god.  It’s very clear.  We believe that it was providential that Pope Pius II make such a specific statement on this matter.  Let’s take a closer look at the key clause in Latin.  It says: relicto veri Dei cultu. 

That an ablative absolute clause, in which you have a noun in the ablative case (in this instance cultu – meaning “worship”) and a participle in the ablative case (in this instance relicto, a form of relinquo – meaning “I leave behind” or “I abandon”).   Relicto cultu literally means: “with the worship having been abandoned or left behind.”  The worship of what?  That’s answered by the objective genitive, veri Dei, which means “of the true God”.  Hence, concerning the change from Christian worship to Islamic worship, Pope Pius II literally writes: “with the worship of the true God having been abandoned.”

Note that Pope Pius II doesn’t merely say that the true worship has been abandoned.  No, he’s more specific and even more devastating to the Vatican II Sect.  He says that the worship of the true God (veri Dei) has been abandoned, and therefore that Muslims do not worship the true God.  This is just another example of how Vatican II is anti-Catholic and anti-papal.  The Catholic faith is true.  The Papacy is true, but Vatican II was the Great Apostasy.  Thus, people who claim to be Catholic should stop trying to defend this false council and its blasphemies, which was promulgated by apostate antipopes, and embrace the true Catholic faith instead. 

In the same document Pius II refers to the “protection of the Christian Faith in which we have all been reborn and without which we cannot be saved…” 

Pope Pius II, Vocavit Nos Pius, Oct. 13, 1458: “... for it concerns the protection of the Christian Faith in which we have all been reborn and without which we cannot be saved...”

That’s another magisterial statement that no one can be saved without the Christian faith, a dogmatic truth of the Church that’s denied by the Vatican II Sect and its defenders.

In 1461 Pope Pius II wrote a long epistle to a Muslim leader named Mahomet.  He calls the Muslim ruler to conversion, and we likewise hope for the conversion of all Muslims.  He explains the many problems with Islam and denounces its absurdities and false teachings.  Among other things, he states:

Pope Pius II, Epistle to Mahomet, 1461: “… the whole of his [Mohammed’s] law is artificial and fraudulent.”

Pope Pius II, Epistle to Mahomet, 1461: “But the Law of Mohammed did not convert people to God, but turned people away from Him.”

Pope Pius II, Epistle to Mahomet, 1461: “Do you not understand the fraud? Or do you not see that your lawgiver [i.e. Mohammed] and the demons share one argument, one collusion, one deception? And that the devil envies Christ, and that he detracts from his glory and majesty?”

Pope Pius II says that the law of Mohammed and the demons constitute a single demonic deception.  Does that sound like the Catholic Church looks upon Islam with esteem, as Vatican II teaches?  No.

In his epistle to the Muslim ruler, Pope Pius II also repeatedly teaches that no one can be saved in Islam, which of course is what the Church dogmatically teaches. 

Pope Pius II, Epistle to Mahomet, 1461: “Understand on which foot your law limps, and with how many errors it abounds, and how far it recedes from the truth, and that there is no salvation in it...”

Pope Pius II, Epistle to Mahomet, 1461: “It is therefore good that you embrace our law, which is truthful and wholesome having been given by God, and leave your law, in which there is neither truth nor salvation...”

This dogmatic truth of the Church is rejected by countless Vatican II heretics and by almost all so-called traditionalist priests at this stage of the Great Apostasy.

These facts should open the eyes of people who have been deceived by the Vatican II Sect.  It’s the not the Catholic Church.  It’s the prophesied end-times Counter Church, as our material explains and documents in detail.  By defending it you are not defending the Catholic Church and the Papacy.   You are actually attacking the Catholic Church and the Papacy, and you are spitting on the teaching of the true popes.  You are defending the false construct of apocalyptic and apostate antipopes, the Whore of Babylon.  Become a true traditional Catholic, as our material explains.  Besides the fact that Pius II destroys the false position that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, he obviously teaches that Islam is a diabolical religion with diabolical rites and beliefs.  That further proves that Vatican II’s teaching, according to which Islam is looked upon with esteem, is anti-Catholic.  Jesus is God, the Papacy and Catholicism are definitely true, but Vatican II was the Great Apostasy.  To be a true Christian and be saved, one must be a traditional Catholic, as our material explains.

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[1] Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils, edited by Norman Tanner, Georgetown University Press, 1990, Vol. 1, p. 479

[2] Ludwig Von Pastor, History of the Popes, Vol. 2, p. 346.

[3] https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/audiences/2005/documents/hf_ben-xvi_aud_20050824.html

[4] https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2006/december/documents/hf_ben_xvi_spe_20061222_curia-romana.html

[5] The Latin text is found in: Collected Orations of Pope Pius II, edited and translated by Michael von Cotta-Schönberg, Vol. 7.  Reference is also made to the bull Vocavit Nos Pius in Ludwig Von Pastor, History of the Popes, Vol. 3, p. 24.